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Marion M. Jones November 8, 1988 TAPE SUMMARY WSU Women's Oral History; collection in Holland Library Archives Interviewed by Judy Jones SIDE A 0-13 13-29 29-33 33-57 57-78 78-86 86-112 112-131 132-137 137-145 145-167 167-200 (Testing for sound level.) Birth in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 1918. Mother had the flu, felt now to be a cause of Parkinson's disease. Grandparents also lived in Minneapolis. Father opened a store soon after her birth in southern Iowa, where Marion lived her first five years. An important time: had scarlet fever, mother read to her, she came to know Jesus Christ as her savior, which has been a vital part of her life ever since. 1931 -Family moved to California for her mother's health. Chose South Pasadena for the quality of the schools. Lived in a bungalow on Marango Island, grades 8-11. Aunts and uncles lived close by, babysat a lot of little boy cousins, uncles hassled her. Father was called back to his company in the mid-West, due to the Depression. Difficult time for her mother--stuck with 2 little girls. Father good about sending them $25 every week. South Pasadena schools affluent, rich people from other communities sent children there, paid out-of-town tuition. Wore school uniforms, so Marion never felt deprived. 11My mother was a lady, .. had paid help at 35 cents/hour. (Pause.) 11I was an original wa1lf1ower11 - only one date in high school, to the junior prom, was asked by a nice young man from church. His younger sister teased him. They had a wonderful time, even though neither of them was a very good dancer. Made her dress for the junior prom. Describes fabrics, prices. After making the skirt, she ran out of material for the bodice, but got help from a neighbor woman and it turned out alright. Made the slip, bought shoes, sash, string of pearls. Total cost of outfit: $10. 1 201-209 210-212 213-226 227-229 229-230 230-248 249-259 259-264 264-273 273-287 287-307 308-317 317-329 Polio epidemic. Had really bad hayfever. Couldn•t go out of yard all summer, after her sophomore year, due to the danger of contracting polio. (Checking sound quality of the tape.) Missed last two weeks of sophomore year in high school because of polio epidemic and had to take finals in the Fall. Lists subjects: French, geometry, English and history. Worried, but did alright, even though she had missed all that at the end. (Pause.) Enjoyed school. Was really happy when father decided to start his own business in Spokane. Moved there her senior year, finished at Lewis and Clark. Liked their first house, had her own room. Folks didn•t buy it because it wasn•t well built. Could have gotten it for $7,500. Lived there the first year. For the next four years they rented a house, which was much too small. Mother and she went with father down to Moscow when it came time to go to college. Had been accepted to Stanford, but father couldn•t afford to send her there, and he had always liked Moscow and the University of Idaho. The three of them knelt by the bed in the Moscow Hotel and prayed God would show them what was right. Went to the Univ. of Idaho for two years. Was always really hungry spiritually. Had lots of dates and boyfriends and fun, but not any Christian fellowship. Went as a delegate to a Presbyterian youth fellowship at Lake Tahoe after her sophomore year. Loved it, met kids from Calvin Club at First Presbyterian Church in Berkeley. Prayed to God to let her go to Univ. of California. Convinced her father it wouldn•t cost any more. It did, but God prosperred him, and she did alright. Mrs. Mayer, her Sunday school teacher at Berkeley, was her role model, Marion admired her ability to communicated the word of God. Met Byron (her husband) there, in the choir. Has loved to sing all her life. Was sitting in a chair at 11 Singspiration 11 in a red velvet dress when he walked up to her and asked her out. First date went to Edie•s in Oakland for a butterscotch pecan sunday. Went together off and one, went out with other young men as well, but mostly did things in groups with the Christian kids. Was happy. (Pause.) Junior year at Cal. Tells story of banquet, big social function in the spring for the church kids. Byron assumed she was going with him, didn•t ask her until the last minute, and she had been asked 2 329-333 334-364 364-371 371-379 380-400 400-415 416-458 458-501 501-517 517-533 and agreed to go with someone else. He couldn't believe it, and took another girl she didn't like too well. The next spring, when the same banquet came around, she and Byron were engaged. (Pause.) Engaged at Easter time, 1940. Parents came to meet Byron May 23rd, had a reception for them in the house where she lived. Tells story of almost not graduating due to faulty advising, her father marching her up the steps of the president's house, intent on having her graduate. Explains that she was to be the first in their family to graduate from college, her parents had both had to drop out due to WWI. Did get her degree later by taking a correspondence course. Her folks felt that it was better to wait a year before getting married. She visited Byron's family and he hers. Byron older than her, had a contracting business in Berkeley. One of the first to make and install flourescent lights. Byron called up for u.s. armed services in April, 1941. Byron chose to be stationed at Everett Air Base because he was getting married in Spokane June 21st. Describes the rapid transformation of the air base. Had just gotten back from their honeymoon when it came over the teletype that all electrical engineers were to report for change of duty to Harvard Univ. Byron's commanding officer said he'd be crazy not to go. They left 2 days later, drove to Spokane. Describes packing in a hurry and not receiving their belongings for a long time. Interesting trip across the country. Amusing incident upon arrival at Cambridge. Reflects on earlier episode in which she had prayed to God that if any hardship would happen to her, He would help her get through it. Was pregnant upon arrival at Cambridge. Had pernicious nausea, hospitalized for twelve days and fed intravenously, intermuscularly. Remembers kindness of the doctor. Baby born end of May, 1942. Went to the hospital because she 11just knew" it was time to deliver. Reality of the war in Massachusetts. Watched ninth army go out on "maneuvers 11 for the last time--later found out they were in Africa. Clumps of trees bristling with anti-aircraft or shore patrol, machine-gun nests on top of buildings at M.I.T., which Byron had begun attending after six months at Harvard. Summary of her years at Cambridge. Stayed there for 4 1/2 years, Byron invited to stay at MIT after the war, but couldn't fathom raising children back there, all their relatives were back West. Twins Byron and Henry borns the year after Dicky was born, and when they were one year old Byron (senior) went to the hospital for 7 1/2 months for polio. Faithfulness of God through those years 3 533-557 557-568 568-571 571-586 SIDE B 0-4 5-11 11-15 15-44 44-139 140-144 145-170 171-185 186-200 201-205 205-221 helped her all through her life, He had answered her prayer to help out when life got hard. Returned to Spokane Nov., 1945. Byron went to California to check out jobs, but the prospects were not good. Byron got a job on the WSU staff through connections to Dr. Compton, president of WSU. Came to Pullman January, 1946. No place to live, finally moved into little Washington Square house. Names neighbors. Mrs. Compton sent her "little Japanese lady" over to clean their house when they first moved in. (Pause.) Births of rest of children: Billy, seven years after the twins; Julie, four years after Billy; Mary one year after Julie. Mary was the hardest one of all. Difficult labor, needed blood transfusion due to incompatible Rh factors. (Blank) "Mary• s a pill" incident. They really loved their children. First attempt at building their own house. Bought land, drew up plans, planted and watered trees. Reason for not following through with building of house not explained, except that "God knew" they belonged elsewhere. Story of building their house, involving incident when the old house fell off the jacks when pouring the foundation, and a new house plan was drawn up around the new foundation. Ten to fifteen years before the house was finally finished. Since finished house has taught college girls' and married women's bible studies. Mostly just cooking, washing, etc. Loved being a mother. Tailored coats for her girls, saved money. Always went to sporting events, PTA, anything that had to do with the children. Was "a professional mom." Loved to read to the children, daughter Julie remembers this the most about growing up. Had a big swing and a concrete patio. Had to get rid of the patio after they took out huge old poplar and it sent up shoots which broke the patio. (Pause, is asked how Pullman has changed since first moved here.) When first moved here, no trees, so could see every house on the 4 222-252 252-255 255-289 290-332 333-337 338-345 345-361 362-366 367-376 377-387 388-408 other hills. Now is "overgrown," and you can't see where the fire engines are going when you hear the sirens. Also notices college has grown. Doesn't participate now, like used to. Te11s about the little one-car train, the "Grey Goose," that used to run from Spokane to Pullman to Lewiston and back every day, and excursions taken on it to Lewiston with her daughters. Describes the scenery, seeing "calfalo"--very special days. (Interviewer asking differences between Cambridge and the West which made the West a more desirable place to live.) "Cambridge was bricks 11 and "I love to be where I can see out." Houses too close together at Cambridge. Cobbles difficult to walk on. People cold, unfriendly. People in her church, nurses in the hospital were very friendly, nice to her. Her father was worried because she lived in a Jewish nieghborhood, had Semitic-type features, and he sent her clippings about antiSemitic violence. Story of hearing terrible noise one night when 50-100 kids were going by with clubs and chains, looking for Jewish kids. Upstairs neighbor hysterical one night when her son didn't return before dark--a lot of that. Bus driver mean to her because he thought she was Jewish. When got to a town in Montana (on the way home from Cambridge), could have gotten out and kissed the ground, was so glad to be almost home. 11 I'11 sue you/' an example of an Eastern type of thing which is coming West now. There were a lot of good, kind, wonderful people there (back East), such as the "little Irish woman/' who would come and help her with the housework every morning, and with whom she differed over the proper season for washing blankets. But in general a feeling of no friendliness. (Interviewer asks what outside activities she participated in while raising her children.) Started out helping with 4-H, but quit when her girls pointed out that she had her hands full just teaching them to sew. Had a lot of students in their home, and she thinks the girls were a little jealous of her time and attention. Feels attention to children is important. Tells story of when, in high school, Dicky complained that it was no use, that noone believed like her and daddy, and she didn't realize that he was referring to people his own age. She feels that if she had heard him, she could have helped him, and it was just a few years ago that she realized her mistake. Dicky on the wrestling team in high school. Kept trying until he made the team, got his jacket. 5 409-415 416-428 428-464 465-477 Mary's success in basketball, helped George Raveling with his summer girls' sports camps. Begins to sum up. Still has a rich life, God brings the people to her home who should come--girl next door with her day care children, three little boys who come often for cookies. Stories relating to her being the 11Cookie lady ... How she came to supply cookies for all the neighborhood children, an amusing incident when a little boy lost his permission slip and cried; Byron's illness, when she began hanging a red ribbon on the lamppost to indicate that it was alright to stop for cookies; problems connected with the Halloween scare and not being able to give cookies to all the children who stopped at her house. Is no longer able to bake by herself, but has a helper who comes over and makes cookies. Hopes to bring out book of original poems by Christmas which tell a lot about her philosophy. Recites poem which tells of her contentment in keeping a home and anticipation of a journey to .. a more distant shore ... 6
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Title | Jones, Marion M. Oral History Interview, 1988 |
Interviewer | Jones, Judy |
Date | 1988-12-14 |
Description | 81 minute oral history with Marion M. Jones, conducted for a Women in the West (HST 398) course at Washington State University. She had recurring incidents of illness though out her life which led to her embracing religion. She married and had to move the family all over the United States, but her family finally settled when her husband began teaching at Washington State University. She discusses her children's births, being active in her children's lives, being a housewife and building the family house. |
Subject | Housewives; Religious groups |
Coverage | North and Central America--United States--Washington (State)--Spokane County--Spokane; North and Central America--United States--California--Los Angeles County--South Pasadena; North and Central America--United States--Minnesota--Hennepin County--Minneapolis; North and Central America--United States--Massachusetts--Middlesex County--Cambridge; North and Central America--United States--Washington (State)--Whitman County--Pullman |
Type | Sound |
Genre | Interviews |
Publisher | Manuscripts, Archives, and Special Collections, Washington State University Libraries: https://libraries.wsu.edu/masc |
Rights | http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/ |
Rights Notes | In copyright. Item is in copyright until 95 years after 2011 publication date. |
Identifier | ua220b03f17 |
Source | Is found in Archives 220, Women in the West Oral Histories https://libraries.wsu.edu/masc/finders/ua220.htm at Washington State University Libraries' Manuscripts, Archives, and Special Collections (MASC) https://libraries.wsu.edu/masc |
Holding Institution | Manuscripts, Archives, and Special Collections, Washington State University Libraries |
Contributors | Digitization and description funded through a National Endowment for the Humanities We the People grant for Washington Womens History to the Washington Womens History Consortium, a part of the Washington State Historical Society. |
Language | English |
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Full Text | Marion M. Jones November 8, 1988 TAPE SUMMARY WSU Women's Oral History; collection in Holland Library Archives Interviewed by Judy Jones SIDE A 0-13 13-29 29-33 33-57 57-78 78-86 86-112 112-131 132-137 137-145 145-167 167-200 (Testing for sound level.) Birth in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 1918. Mother had the flu, felt now to be a cause of Parkinson's disease. Grandparents also lived in Minneapolis. Father opened a store soon after her birth in southern Iowa, where Marion lived her first five years. An important time: had scarlet fever, mother read to her, she came to know Jesus Christ as her savior, which has been a vital part of her life ever since. 1931 -Family moved to California for her mother's health. Chose South Pasadena for the quality of the schools. Lived in a bungalow on Marango Island, grades 8-11. Aunts and uncles lived close by, babysat a lot of little boy cousins, uncles hassled her. Father was called back to his company in the mid-West, due to the Depression. Difficult time for her mother--stuck with 2 little girls. Father good about sending them $25 every week. South Pasadena schools affluent, rich people from other communities sent children there, paid out-of-town tuition. Wore school uniforms, so Marion never felt deprived. 11My mother was a lady, .. had paid help at 35 cents/hour. (Pause.) 11I was an original wa1lf1ower11 - only one date in high school, to the junior prom, was asked by a nice young man from church. His younger sister teased him. They had a wonderful time, even though neither of them was a very good dancer. Made her dress for the junior prom. Describes fabrics, prices. After making the skirt, she ran out of material for the bodice, but got help from a neighbor woman and it turned out alright. Made the slip, bought shoes, sash, string of pearls. Total cost of outfit: $10. 1 201-209 210-212 213-226 227-229 229-230 230-248 249-259 259-264 264-273 273-287 287-307 308-317 317-329 Polio epidemic. Had really bad hayfever. Couldn•t go out of yard all summer, after her sophomore year, due to the danger of contracting polio. (Checking sound quality of the tape.) Missed last two weeks of sophomore year in high school because of polio epidemic and had to take finals in the Fall. Lists subjects: French, geometry, English and history. Worried, but did alright, even though she had missed all that at the end. (Pause.) Enjoyed school. Was really happy when father decided to start his own business in Spokane. Moved there her senior year, finished at Lewis and Clark. Liked their first house, had her own room. Folks didn•t buy it because it wasn•t well built. Could have gotten it for $7,500. Lived there the first year. For the next four years they rented a house, which was much too small. Mother and she went with father down to Moscow when it came time to go to college. Had been accepted to Stanford, but father couldn•t afford to send her there, and he had always liked Moscow and the University of Idaho. The three of them knelt by the bed in the Moscow Hotel and prayed God would show them what was right. Went to the Univ. of Idaho for two years. Was always really hungry spiritually. Had lots of dates and boyfriends and fun, but not any Christian fellowship. Went as a delegate to a Presbyterian youth fellowship at Lake Tahoe after her sophomore year. Loved it, met kids from Calvin Club at First Presbyterian Church in Berkeley. Prayed to God to let her go to Univ. of California. Convinced her father it wouldn•t cost any more. It did, but God prosperred him, and she did alright. Mrs. Mayer, her Sunday school teacher at Berkeley, was her role model, Marion admired her ability to communicated the word of God. Met Byron (her husband) there, in the choir. Has loved to sing all her life. Was sitting in a chair at 11 Singspiration 11 in a red velvet dress when he walked up to her and asked her out. First date went to Edie•s in Oakland for a butterscotch pecan sunday. Went together off and one, went out with other young men as well, but mostly did things in groups with the Christian kids. Was happy. (Pause.) Junior year at Cal. Tells story of banquet, big social function in the spring for the church kids. Byron assumed she was going with him, didn•t ask her until the last minute, and she had been asked 2 329-333 334-364 364-371 371-379 380-400 400-415 416-458 458-501 501-517 517-533 and agreed to go with someone else. He couldn't believe it, and took another girl she didn't like too well. The next spring, when the same banquet came around, she and Byron were engaged. (Pause.) Engaged at Easter time, 1940. Parents came to meet Byron May 23rd, had a reception for them in the house where she lived. Tells story of almost not graduating due to faulty advising, her father marching her up the steps of the president's house, intent on having her graduate. Explains that she was to be the first in their family to graduate from college, her parents had both had to drop out due to WWI. Did get her degree later by taking a correspondence course. Her folks felt that it was better to wait a year before getting married. She visited Byron's family and he hers. Byron older than her, had a contracting business in Berkeley. One of the first to make and install flourescent lights. Byron called up for u.s. armed services in April, 1941. Byron chose to be stationed at Everett Air Base because he was getting married in Spokane June 21st. Describes the rapid transformation of the air base. Had just gotten back from their honeymoon when it came over the teletype that all electrical engineers were to report for change of duty to Harvard Univ. Byron's commanding officer said he'd be crazy not to go. They left 2 days later, drove to Spokane. Describes packing in a hurry and not receiving their belongings for a long time. Interesting trip across the country. Amusing incident upon arrival at Cambridge. Reflects on earlier episode in which she had prayed to God that if any hardship would happen to her, He would help her get through it. Was pregnant upon arrival at Cambridge. Had pernicious nausea, hospitalized for twelve days and fed intravenously, intermuscularly. Remembers kindness of the doctor. Baby born end of May, 1942. Went to the hospital because she 11just knew" it was time to deliver. Reality of the war in Massachusetts. Watched ninth army go out on "maneuvers 11 for the last time--later found out they were in Africa. Clumps of trees bristling with anti-aircraft or shore patrol, machine-gun nests on top of buildings at M.I.T., which Byron had begun attending after six months at Harvard. Summary of her years at Cambridge. Stayed there for 4 1/2 years, Byron invited to stay at MIT after the war, but couldn't fathom raising children back there, all their relatives were back West. Twins Byron and Henry borns the year after Dicky was born, and when they were one year old Byron (senior) went to the hospital for 7 1/2 months for polio. Faithfulness of God through those years 3 533-557 557-568 568-571 571-586 SIDE B 0-4 5-11 11-15 15-44 44-139 140-144 145-170 171-185 186-200 201-205 205-221 helped her all through her life, He had answered her prayer to help out when life got hard. Returned to Spokane Nov., 1945. Byron went to California to check out jobs, but the prospects were not good. Byron got a job on the WSU staff through connections to Dr. Compton, president of WSU. Came to Pullman January, 1946. No place to live, finally moved into little Washington Square house. Names neighbors. Mrs. Compton sent her "little Japanese lady" over to clean their house when they first moved in. (Pause.) Births of rest of children: Billy, seven years after the twins; Julie, four years after Billy; Mary one year after Julie. Mary was the hardest one of all. Difficult labor, needed blood transfusion due to incompatible Rh factors. (Blank) "Mary• s a pill" incident. They really loved their children. First attempt at building their own house. Bought land, drew up plans, planted and watered trees. Reason for not following through with building of house not explained, except that "God knew" they belonged elsewhere. Story of building their house, involving incident when the old house fell off the jacks when pouring the foundation, and a new house plan was drawn up around the new foundation. Ten to fifteen years before the house was finally finished. Since finished house has taught college girls' and married women's bible studies. Mostly just cooking, washing, etc. Loved being a mother. Tailored coats for her girls, saved money. Always went to sporting events, PTA, anything that had to do with the children. Was "a professional mom." Loved to read to the children, daughter Julie remembers this the most about growing up. Had a big swing and a concrete patio. Had to get rid of the patio after they took out huge old poplar and it sent up shoots which broke the patio. (Pause, is asked how Pullman has changed since first moved here.) When first moved here, no trees, so could see every house on the 4 222-252 252-255 255-289 290-332 333-337 338-345 345-361 362-366 367-376 377-387 388-408 other hills. Now is "overgrown," and you can't see where the fire engines are going when you hear the sirens. Also notices college has grown. Doesn't participate now, like used to. Te11s about the little one-car train, the "Grey Goose," that used to run from Spokane to Pullman to Lewiston and back every day, and excursions taken on it to Lewiston with her daughters. Describes the scenery, seeing "calfalo"--very special days. (Interviewer asking differences between Cambridge and the West which made the West a more desirable place to live.) "Cambridge was bricks 11 and "I love to be where I can see out." Houses too close together at Cambridge. Cobbles difficult to walk on. People cold, unfriendly. People in her church, nurses in the hospital were very friendly, nice to her. Her father was worried because she lived in a Jewish nieghborhood, had Semitic-type features, and he sent her clippings about antiSemitic violence. Story of hearing terrible noise one night when 50-100 kids were going by with clubs and chains, looking for Jewish kids. Upstairs neighbor hysterical one night when her son didn't return before dark--a lot of that. Bus driver mean to her because he thought she was Jewish. When got to a town in Montana (on the way home from Cambridge), could have gotten out and kissed the ground, was so glad to be almost home. 11 I'11 sue you/' an example of an Eastern type of thing which is coming West now. There were a lot of good, kind, wonderful people there (back East), such as the "little Irish woman/' who would come and help her with the housework every morning, and with whom she differed over the proper season for washing blankets. But in general a feeling of no friendliness. (Interviewer asks what outside activities she participated in while raising her children.) Started out helping with 4-H, but quit when her girls pointed out that she had her hands full just teaching them to sew. Had a lot of students in their home, and she thinks the girls were a little jealous of her time and attention. Feels attention to children is important. Tells story of when, in high school, Dicky complained that it was no use, that noone believed like her and daddy, and she didn't realize that he was referring to people his own age. She feels that if she had heard him, she could have helped him, and it was just a few years ago that she realized her mistake. Dicky on the wrestling team in high school. Kept trying until he made the team, got his jacket. 5 409-415 416-428 428-464 465-477 Mary's success in basketball, helped George Raveling with his summer girls' sports camps. Begins to sum up. Still has a rich life, God brings the people to her home who should come--girl next door with her day care children, three little boys who come often for cookies. Stories relating to her being the 11Cookie lady ... How she came to supply cookies for all the neighborhood children, an amusing incident when a little boy lost his permission slip and cried; Byron's illness, when she began hanging a red ribbon on the lamppost to indicate that it was alright to stop for cookies; problems connected with the Halloween scare and not being able to give cookies to all the children who stopped at her house. Is no longer able to bake by herself, but has a helper who comes over and makes cookies. Hopes to bring out book of original poems by Christmas which tell a lot about her philosophy. Recites poem which tells of her contentment in keeping a home and anticipation of a journey to .. a more distant shore ... 6 |
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